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By: JamesPHickey

New York Giants news for Wednesday

Good morning, New York Giants fans!

Overreactions aside, what do the New York Giants do now?

BBV’s Ed Valentine looks at what the micro and macro view for the “shell-shocked” Giants this season

I encourage to read the whole article, as it takes a deep dive why Sunday night happened (a young team not ready, losing in the trenches and ball security) on where the roster is and what the alternatives are.

But most of all, Sunday hurt because as Ed writes:

The Giants went all-in on last year, believing that the foundation for success was in place and they just needed to add pieces to it. Sunday stung so much because the Giants believed they were beyond being embarrassed like that, and had done enough to take a step forward.

More from Big Blue View

  • Film study: What happened to the right side of the Giants’ OL vs. Dallas?
  • Giants rookie report, Week 1: Not a good start
  • Andre Roberts, James Proche among players reportedly working out for Giants

Other Giant observations

Justin Pugh: Giants offensive line can fix ‘confidence issues’ | New York Post

Justin Pugh was the 24-year-old right tackle for the Giants in 2014, a former first-round pick struggling to gain a foothold and live up to the immense expectations of the New York/New Jersey fan base. His team had just been shut out, 27-0, and he was a big reason for the offensive showing on offense. If this sounds more than vaguely familiar to what is going on right now with the Giants, that is because it truly is.

“I was Evan Neal,’’ Pugh said.

The analytics and raw numbers point to the issues on the offensive line

Giants release unofficial depth chart for Week 2 vs. Cardinals | Giants.com

The New York Giants released the unofficial depth chart for their Week 2 road game against the Arizona Cardinals with no changes along the offensive line.

Giants offensive line’s analytics grades were brutal | New York Post

“Once you put it on film, it takes about four weeks of doing it well before opponents stop trying to do that pass-rush move to you,” Schwartz said. “If it’s worrisome and not easily correctable, it’s going to take a month to bring it back on track. It’s just a matter of figuring out the issues.”

“I don’t think there’s a crisis of confidence with the unit because they played well enough last year to be a playoff team,” SiriusXM NFL analyst Geoff Schwartz, a former Giants offensive guard, said. “It depends on the individual player to look at the film and say, ‘There are correctable things here; between practice we can feel much better.’ I would think they’d look at it as one bad night and not let it turn into a bad season.”

Week 1 humiliation leaves one perplexing question: Who, exactly, are these Giants? | FOX Sports

Maybe what happened Sunday night isn’t who the Giants really are. But they left plenty of room for doubt, so they better prove otherwise quickly.

One thing we learned about each NFL team in Week 1 | CBSSports.com

The offensive line is still not good: New York added center John Michael Schmitz as its significant change on the offensive line. The Giants needed to upgrade the unit even more after what the Cowboys defense did. The Giants allowed six sacks and 22 pressures in the shutout loss, as guard Mark Glowinski allowing four sacks on his own. Daniel Jones went 8 of 16 for 58 yards and an interception under pressure, having no time to get into a rhythm. The Giants boasted about the line being better, but it might have gotten worse.

NFL’s best and worst Week 1 coaching decisions: Aggressive Dan Campbell stands out | The Athletic

I understand leaving Thomas in until the game was completely out of hand, but I’m not sure why Jones was out there after several starters sat, down 40-0. Coach Brian Daboll said they were just trying to get something positive going, but leaving the quarterback hung out to dry with an overmatched offensive line didn’t make much sense, especially after sitting him all but one drive in the preseason to protect him. After the Giants were down by 40 points, Jones was sacked three times, took two hits and was tackled on a scramble.

Parsons: “The reality is (Daniel Jones is) a really good player”

Debacle vs. Cowboys was Giants’ worst performance in years, but it’s too early to panic | The Athletic

The dynamics are much different for Daboll and general manager Joe Schoen due to their overachievement last season. If the Giants had lost a game like Sunday’s last season, it would have been dismissed as a casualty of the early stages of a rebuild.

How Brian Daboll Can Steer Giants Through Adversity | Sports Illustrated

Don’t expect Daboll to change all that much as he looks to steer the Giants out of the rocky start to their 2023 season.

Grading all 31 first-round picks after Week 1 of the 2023 NFL season | PFF

CB Deonte Banks, Overall Rookie Grade: 67.0 (Rank: 5/11). Banks was the Giants’ highest-graded cornerback Sunday. He didn’t allow a catch on two targets and recovered nicely to force Brandin Cooks out of bounds after Cooks had a step on him down the field. Banks was used in press coverage on more than 70% of his snaps and generally was in an excellent position against Dallas’ receivers. It wasn’t a flashy debut by any means, but Banks’ athletic talent jumped off the tape.

Giants’ Adoree’ Jackson NFL grass Aaron Rodgers injury | WFAN.com

“For us it was slippery [Sunday night]…even though it was wet,” Jackson said. “At same time, I’m always going to be a big advocate for grass. Playing in the [Los Angeles Memorial] Coliseum was nothing but grass. I fell in love with that. Obviously, I was on the West Coast playing… but I feel like a lot of money is being made in this league, a lot of money going around, I feel at least we should be able to take care of the field. Pay the extra million, whatever it may be… at least take care of the field. The players represent you on it as well.”

This week’s opponent

Joshua Dobbs to remain Cardinals’ starting QB for Week 2 | ESPN.com

Joshua Dobbs will remain the Arizona Cardinals’ starting quarterback for their home opener in Week 2 against the New York Giants, coach Jonathan Gannon announced Monday, saying “I’m excited about seeing what he does this week,” Gannon said.

From The Edge, Cardinals Lean On Their ‘Dawgs’ | AZCardianls.om

Whether it was Cam Thomas, Dennis Gardeck, or Zaven Collins, who finished with an interception and fumble recovery, all of the active outside linebackers saw the field on a rotating basis, and they landed their name on the stat sheets.

Winners and losers from Arizona Cardinals loss to Washington Commanders | Revenge of the Birds

Winner – Defensive Coordinator Nick Rallis

The talent disparity between the Cardinals defense and Commanders is stark… and yet the Cardinals defense made more plays in the game and had chances to make even more. Rallis and Gannon in their first game look like they know how to design and execute a game plan.

Grading all 31 first-round picks after Week 1 of the 2023 NFL season | PFF

OT Paris Johnson Overall Rookie Grade: 52.2 (Rank: 2/4). Johnson’s debut at right tackle for Arizona was a mixed bag. He didn’t allow a single pressure against a tough Washington front and finished the day with a 74.8 pass-blocking grade. His struggles were primarily in the run game, especially when tasked with blocking Daron Payne inside.

Around the league

MetLife Stadium turf: What Jets, Bills had to say after Aaron Rodgers’ injury | The Athletic

Jets QB Aaron Rodgers suffered torn Achilles vs. Bills, will miss remainder of 2023 NFL season | NFL.com

Robert Saleh doubts turf caused Aaron Rodgers injury, but “players prefer grass” | Pro Football Talk

Packers lose first-round pick from trade as Jets QB will miss season | CBSSports.com

D.J. Fluker works out for Jets | YahooSports.comJason Peters to sign with Seahawks practice squad | Pro Football Talk

2023 NFL Week 1: Eagles Offense Looked ‘Stuck in the Mud’ vs. Patriots | The 33rd Team

Mike Tomlin: Steelers WR Diontae Johnson (hamstring) ‘probably unavailable’ vs. Browns | NFL.com

Report: Jaycee Horn to miss multiple weeks with hamstring injury | Pro Football Talk

NFL Rule Change Results in Record-Low Kickoff Returns in Week 1 of 2023 Season | Bleacher Report

Jim Trotter sues NFL over firing from NFL Network | Pro Football Talk

‘ManningCast’ best moments: Eli Manning wonders if Jets will go after Tom Brady after Aaron Rodgers injury | CBSSports.com

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